2017 NYS Trout Season: flies that produced

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2017 NYS Trout Season: flies that produced

Post by mikevalla » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:55 pm

So the "regular" NYS trout season is behind us (although I'm not hanging up any rods yet). Looking forward to replenishing my supply of the flies that produced especially well for me. All "oldies but goodies," the unabashed yet anachronistic fly guy I am)
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So, what flies performed best for you in 2017
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Re: 2017 NYS Trout Season: flies that produced

Post by Eperous » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:18 pm

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Re: 2017 NYS Trout Season: flies that produced

Post by mikevalla » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:49 am

Ha! Ed.....that's pretty funny! A worm and a bobber :lol: :lol:
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Re: 2017 NYS Trout Season: flies that produced

Post by Eperous » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:49 pm

mikevalla wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:49 am
Ha! Ed.....that's pretty funny! A worm and a bobber :lol: :lol:
Mr. Valla, thanks for tolerating my warped sense of humor. I don't want to pontificate, but allow me to state the obvious before responding to your interesting, and thought provoking, post.

A productive fly pattern from one season to the next might change, not because it catches more or less trout, but because conditions and usage change. Perhaps a hatch didn't happen, maybe we fished different waters or the same waters at different times of the season, or under different conditions as in floods or droughts and hot weather. On my Esopus, my most productive Isonychia nymph pattern is Preston Jennings' Isonychia, but during 2017 for various reasons, I didn't have occasion to use it. So let's move on.

Regarding nymphs, in Catskill freestone streams the only fly I need/use most of April is Ernest Schwiebert's Epeorus Nymph, #12 weighted. After reading The Founding Flies, I found the Martinez Black, #10 weighted, to be deadly most of the season, anytime. Also give me a few #14 and #16 Beadhead Pheasant Tails that I use as droppers off a dry fly, and I'm set though that Casual Dress you show does well for me early season.

I didn't fish many wets this year, but "discovered" the Partridge and Orange. It was deadly on the upper Neversink as a dropper off a dry, where multi-color caddis abound.

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Dries, give me the X-Caddis in size 14 through 20, and I'm set. The Dorato Hares Ear in sizes 16 to 20 didn't catch many trout, but it caught all the tough ones. I also like some tiny slant-wing CDC stuff for Delaware system tailwaters, and my Esopus when late season miniscule dark BWO's are about. I need several mahogany #22 and #24's. FYI:
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During the summer, when I'm chasing headwater brook trout, old standbys work the best: #14 Brown Bivisible, a #14 Cinberg, and my Elk Hair Stonefly in sizes #14 and #16. FYI: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=481&p=2836&hilit=el ... efly#p2836 Most old and reliable, deadly all!

As for streamers, a small Black Leech (#10) and a slightly larger black Conehead Woolly Bugger (#8). This time of season a #6 yellow Madonna, and often the old Mickey Finn (#6) produce fish when nothing else will, for me.

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Re: 2017 NYS Trout Season: flies that produced

Post by SgtMajUSMC » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:54 pm

Hi Mike and Ed,

Best flies? Hatch-matching dry flies, often a Usual for the various hatches from the early Hendricksons to the ever-present tiny olives.

I've fished an Ausable Wulff frequently, and did more with tiny ants this year.

For wets, a simple brown bh with grouse hackle and tail works well as a general searching fly. The Dickie and Jack Gartside's Sparrow are favorite searching patterns.

Ed's Black Leech and the Light Edson Tiger were go-to "long flies".

Regretfully, I didn't get as much fishing in s I'd have liked to this year, but there are still opportunities out there.

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Tim

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Re: 2017 NYS Trout Season: flies that produced

Post by tie2fish » Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:29 am

The only thing that produced for me on the Willow this year ...

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Re: 2017 NYS Trout Season: flies that produced

Post by Eperous » Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:02 pm

tie2fish wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:29 am
The only thing that produced for me on the Willow this year ...
Looks tasty and very deadly.... ;)

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Re: 2017 NYS Trout Season: flies that produced

Post by Theroe » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:51 pm

Funny how you just HAPPENED TO HAVE THAT WORM HANDY.... :lol:
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Re: 2017 NYS Trout Season: flies that produced

Post by andre » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:49 pm

Olives and sulphurs all summer on the east.

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Re: 2017 NYS Trout Season: flies that produced

Post by Bullethead » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:41 pm

Hey, how about hammering down those barbs. Wish I had more to say, but I don't have anything more important.

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