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Re: Betters Haystack

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:51 pm
by twistedtippet
bearbutt wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:49 pm
twistedtippet wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:25 pm
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As you age you will learn to put some thought into what you espouse.
I'd guess he's already put some good thought into what he espoused, as I agree with him; and I'm 63. Fran's underthread design is what makes his ties different from so many that came after him--look at the box of Haystacks Fran tied I posted above. It's the same with Fran's Usuals.

As for cane v graphite--for anything inside of 50 feet, I'll take bamboo any day.

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When you grow up you'll understand what I said.
tt

Re: Betters Haystack

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:35 pm
by bearbutt
twistedtippet wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:51 pm


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When you grow up you'll understand what I said.
tt
LOL--I'm trying hard to grow down--

Cheers,
bb

Re: Betters Haystack

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:48 pm
by Eperous
twistedtippet wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:51 pm
bearbutt wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:49 pm
twistedtippet wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:25 pm
[
As you age you will learn to put some thought into what you espouse.
I'd guess he's already put some good thought into what he espoused, as I agree with him; and I'm 63. Fran's underthread design is what makes his ties different from so many that came after him--look at the box of Haystacks Fran tied I posted above. It's the same with Fran's Usuals.

As for cane v graphite--for anything inside of 50 feet, I'll take bamboo any day.

bb
bb
When you grow up you'll understand what I said.
tt
What I always liked about this board is participants could post opinions, even if they were different than others, without someone putting down that individual... :cry:

Ed

Re: Betters Haystack

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:03 pm
by squish67
Agreed, Ed! :roll: :roll:

Re: Betters Haystack

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:22 am
by Theroe
Eperous wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:48 pm
twistedtippet wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:51 pm
bearbutt wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:49 pm


I'd guess he's already put some good thought into what he espoused, as I agree with him; and I'm 63. Fran's underthread design is what makes his ties different from so many that came after him--look at the box of Haystacks Fran tied I posted above. It's the same with Fran's Usuals.

As for cane v graphite--for anything inside of 50 feet, I'll take bamboo any day.

bb
bb
When you grow up you'll understand what I said.
tt
What I always liked about this board is participants could post opinions, even if they were different than others, without someone putting down that individual... :cry:

Ed
AS it SHOULD be.........

Re: Betters Haystack

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:28 pm
by SamsonCane
I do love glass, but I think that's where it should have stopped. If we had kept refining glass there would have been no need for graphite- today's glass can compare to any graphite.

Re: Betters Haystack

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:00 pm
by twistedtippet
WELL I guess I got some POOP started here. I only was trying to tell the lad not to be so opinionated with so little experience when it comes to the dressing of patterns, and the materials fly rods are made of. I've been tying flies for more than 50 years and the one thing I've learned is "everything works sometimes and sometimes nothing works. I also have some great cane rods,(love my Jon Parkers) but also some great graphite and glass rods and they each are superior for different purposes. So with that I'll GO AWAY.
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Re: Betters Haystack

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:21 pm
by Eperous
twistedtippet wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:00 pm
So with that I'll GO AWAY.
I don't think that was suggested, but perhaps consider how you say what you say... :|

Ed

Re: Betters Haystack

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:00 pm
by St.Froid
SamsonCane wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:00 pm
Right. That's how I was taught to tie it and I don't really like the looks of the Usuals with orange dubbing. The original way is the better way, sort of like fly rods- I don't think anyone who has ever cast a top-quality Tonkin or bamboo rod has any ground to argue that graphite/glass is better. The complaints of "too slow" or "too fragile" are simply because they have only ever used a Montague or H-I. It's really a shame that graphite was ever invented.
Well, some of us, me, who rely on the gods of farming for my meager income are terribly appreciative of the graphite rod and it's price point. Not everyone is blessed with the discretionary funds needed to purchase your 'top quality' Tonkin cane.

...as for the OP, I don't fish dries very often but when I do it's almost always a Haystack. If it isn't a Haystack it will be another Better's design: the Ausable Bomber.

Re: Betters Haystack

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:44 pm
by Brk Trt
Well, some of us, me, who rely on the gods of farming for my meager income are terribly appreciative of the graphite rod and it's price point. Not everyone is blessed with the discretionary funds needed to purchase your 'top quality' Tonkin cane.

...as for the OP, I don't fish dries very often but when I do it's almost always a Haystack. If it isn't a Haystack it will be another Better's design: the Ausable Bomber.

I agree

Alan