The elusive 20

catskilljohn
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The elusive 20

Post by catskilljohn » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:15 am

On a headwater stream way above the Delaware River, right at dusk where the shadows overtook the low sunlight, ahead and on the far bank a rootball the size of a vw towered alongside the stream.

The stream favors that side, and where the roots once took hold left a depression in the streambed, where water slowed to half it’s already weak state.

I cast above the hole, watched the fly bob into the slack water and some vacuum pulled it under. I lifted, he turned, and in fear of him wrapping the leader in the tangle of underwater subterranean branches, my pressure on the spool exceeded the wire on the hook.

Those big ones get me more than I get them, that’s for sure. CJ
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Re: The elusive 20

Post by Algyros » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:42 pm

A hook straightened by a large fish is a badge of honor.

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Re: The elusive 20

Post by Theroe » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:12 pm

shoudda useda ALLCOCK !!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
“Time to go fishing”

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Re: The elusive 20

Post by catskilljohn » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:22 pm

Theroe wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:12 pm
shoudda useda ALLCOCK !!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Then it would have come back with no point or bend Dana😂😂
"Gentlemen,remove your hats,this is it"
"This is where the trout was invented?"
"Oh he existed in a crude,primitive form in Waltons England"
"But this is where they painted spots on him and taught him to swim"

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Re: The elusive 20

Post by catskilljohn » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:05 pm

Algyros wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:42 pm
A hook straightened by a large fish is a badge of honor.
Then I shall display this one proudly Alex👍🏻 CJ
"Gentlemen,remove your hats,this is it"
"This is where the trout was invented?"
"Oh he existed in a crude,primitive form in Waltons England"
"But this is where they painted spots on him and taught him to swim"

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Re: The elusive 20

Post by redietz » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:58 pm

Algyros wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:42 pm
A hook straightened by a large fish is a badge of honor.
I agree. More so if it was a large hook.

I also believe some hooks are springy enough that they straighten to let the fish escape and then return to their original form.
Bob

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Re: The elusive 20

Post by narcodog » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:23 am

redietz wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:58 pm
Algyros wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:42 pm
A hook straightened by a large fish is a badge of honor.
I agree. More so if it was a large hook.

I also believe some hooks are springy enough that they straighten to let the fish escape and then return to their original form.
Yikes, that's the best theory I have seen presented in a long time.

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Re: The elusive 20

Post by catskilljohn » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:07 am

redietz wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:58 pm

I also believe some hooks are springy enough that they straighten to let the fish escape and then return to their original form.
Ehhhhh, I’ve never seen that springy of a hook. That is an interesting theory.
I straightened a few, bent a lot more and broke a lot of classic hooks, but never had one spring back to original.

CJ
"Gentlemen,remove your hats,this is it"
"This is where the trout was invented?"
"Oh he existed in a crude,primitive form in Waltons England"
"But this is where they painted spots on him and taught him to swim"

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Re: The elusive 20

Post by corlay » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:26 pm

sort of amazing that the hook straightened before the tippet broke.

I wonder if the fish could've been hooked through,
so the barb, protruding from its lip,
may have snagged on that giant root ball,
and imparted the required leverage to deform the steel and straighten?

Seems like if just straight pulling-force that tippet is giving out first, every time.

When encounters like that happen, I always find myself muttering:
"you win today, 'ol boy - but don't leave that spot, or you are mine."

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Re: The elusive 20

Post by redietz » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:46 pm

corlay wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:26 pm
sort of amazing that the hook straightened before the tippet broke.

Seems like if just straight pulling-force that tippet is giving out first, every time.
It doesn't, though. I've probably straightened more hooks than I've busted tippet (on fish at least). It's especially common on small, light wire hooks, but I once straightened the hook on a size 6 streamer. That fish still haunts me.

The reason that vintage forged hooks were flattened was to reduce the possibility of straightening. (Although in my experience, they tended to break instead.)
Bob

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